Season one group rewatch: the pilot

[jae]

This is the discussion post for the pilot episode in the group rewatch of season one. When you rewatched the episode, was there anything you noticed that you didn't notice the first time (and any subsequent times) you saw it? What things about it did you perhaps view differently after having seen the later episodes?

You can expect spoilers for the entire first season in the comments.

Comments

[apolla-savre.livejournal.com]

Oh, definitely, she needs to feel in control for sex and closeness.

I don't know if she just tolerated it, but I think he was definitely the one to initiate. Sometimes Philip's love for her and the way he displays it is a bit creepy (listening to the tape, continuing to kiss her and play with her hair after he said stop) but I think it comes from wanting to know what she enjoys and she doesn't really respond all that often. I think the brownie/knife/kiss scene was after he'd listened to the tape where she'd told the guy she wanted him to be stronger, so I think he might have been playing on that, thinking that was what she wanted.

[katiac]

It's interesting because Philip is really left to just guess so much of the time. It's like he always has to be a spy, even at home, because his wife won't/can't just flat out communicate with anyone if it's about a topic that makes her uncomfortable.

The whole "stop" thing is interesting to watch from both their sides because from Elizabeth's you see it as one way because of knowing about the rape and how she's having some stress brought up again about it, and then it's hard to "unknow" that when looking from Philip's. In later episodes, they both seem to get in each other's space at times even after being told not to, like when Philip tells Elizabeth his injury "is fine" and she proceeds to lift his shirt up anyway, and it doesn't appear to be an issue.