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23 May 2018 in the U.S. and Canada

This is a discussion post for episode 609 of The Americans, intended for viewers who are watching the show on the U.S./Canadian schedule. (Feel free to dive in to the discussion even if you're coming in late--and you should also feel free to start a new thread if it seems too daunting to read through what's already been posted first. If you're reading this at a point where you've already seen subsequent episodes, though, please take care to keep comments spoiler-free of anything that comes after season six, episode nine.)

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sistermagpie

Also in the Paige/Elizabeth scene, Paige is telling Elizabeth that Henry, too, is repulsed by her and went to school to get away from her.

Back in S1 Elizabeth said Claudia was unlovable or words to that effect and seemed to be also speaking of herself. While Paige seems to fear being unlovable herself. So here she's saying that she herself is loved because she's normal and pure, with a guy that she likes and likes her back. While Elizabeth is repulsive.

I do wonder if that line about Philip, especially, was a bit of a wake up moment like when Martha talked about Clark in bed. Not because Philip really feels that way but because it makes her think about how he feels about her and how she's failed him potentially.

From:

andy73

Also I think one thing became clear to Elizabeth while she is speaking with Page: there’s only one person who fully understands her: her husband .

From:

sistermagpie

Absolutely. And I love that that moment comes after the show always showing that Philip really does respect her sex work. She's more likely to slut-shame him than the reverse. They know how important it is that she feels really safe with him regarding that issue.

From:

andy73

She's more likely to slut-shame him than the reverse. They know how important it is that she feels really safe with him regarding that issue.

Yes!!! Do you remember S2 with the hotel guy???
When she come back at home, she stayed in the car for a long time before… then she go to Philip and makes love with him… I think more for her then for him. And Philip got her!!!

Edited Date: 2022-06-25 07:11 pm (UTC)

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sistermagpie

Exactly. In rewatching the show you can see a very clear pattern of her sensitivity about the issue--they knew it was leading to this place. (Also really interesting pattern of Paige being totally uninterested in having much to do with anything foreign--I hadn't noticed that at first.)

From: (Anonymous)

(Also really interesting pattern of Paige being totally uninterested in having much to do with anything foreign--I hadn't noticed that at first.)

Oh, you are right! I didn't notice either, thank you

From:

andy73

(Also really interesting pattern of Paige being totally uninterested in having much to do with anything foreign--I hadn't noticed that at first.)

Oh, you are right! I didn't notice either, thank you

It was me not logged in.

you can see a very clear pattern

It's amazing how the show is a set of pieces of a big puzzle, all consistent. Get out one and everything falls down!