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4 May 2016 in the U.S. and Canada

This is a discussion post for episode 408 of The Americans, intended for viewers who are watching the show on the U.S./Canadian schedule. (Feel free to dive in to the discussion even if you're coming in late--and you should also feel free to start a new thread if it seems too daunting to read through what's already been posted first. If you're reading this at a point where you've already seen subsequent episodes, though, please take care to keep comments spoiler-free of anything that comes after season four, episode eight.)

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Re: Irina and Philip's kid

Date: 2016-05-05 09:05 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sistermagpie
Look at how he's always used so far, after all. Irina used him before sleeping with Philip. Then Gabriel has him as a reason for Philip to sleep with Kimmie. Then Elizabeth tries to get him out but he's just too patriotic. Now, just as Gabriel wants to ease up, he's finished his tour!

Re: Irina and Philip's kid

Date: 2016-05-07 01:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sugangel7.livejournal.com
agreed on this. Because she's never seen him, I feel like Irina and Philip's son represents to her this woman and family Philip had chosen before her, and one that maybe he would have chosen again had perhaps she and Philip not had children themselves.

I don't think I realized how deep Elizabeth's insecurities over Philip being with her went until her asking him in the last episode if he would go back with Martha and then the Irina comment in this episode.

but maybe that's been amplified by the fact that Philip told her every instinct in him was telling him to run bec of the Pastor Tim situation but because she doesn't have those warnings in her head, they stay (and she can't tell if the "they" is primarily because of the kids rather than including her or if that decision to stay could easily change at any given moment once he realizes how much easier life could be without his "obligation" to her and the kids if that makes sense)

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