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At the end of the Season 3 finale Philip started saying something, but Elizabeth (and Reagan) interrupted him.  What do you think Philip intended to say?

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Date: 2015-06-11 02:14 pm (UTC)
sistermagpie: Classic magpie (Default)
From: [personal profile] sistermagpie
I don't even think he necessarily knows what for, exactly (and especially not, like, coherently and explicitly - if he had the words, he'd have used them then). I think it's more amorphous than that, more just this overwhelming wanting for things to be different. To be less painful.

It's like the showrunners once said when asked what Philip wanted. They said he just wanted his soul to hurt less.

Date: 2015-06-11 07:16 pm (UTC)
soupytwist: Dude says NO to heterosexuality. (mmm... vice)
From: [personal profile] soupytwist
What interview's that from? I feel like I'd remember it if I'd seen it! That's great - and heartbreaking!

Date: 2015-06-12 07:14 pm (UTC)
sistermagpie: Classic magpie (Default)
From: [personal profile] sistermagpie
Hmm...can't remember. But it was I think after the season 2 finale and I believe it was a podcast. Maybe on Slate they did one?

Interestingly, I just read an interview that just dropped where they specifically asked about Philip's speech here and they said, as we assumed, that the whole point of it is just that he doesn't know what to say. They said they talked to MR about some of the things that might be motivating him if he could say it, but mostly it's about how he has no idea what to say so the question isn't even if he'll be able to finish but if he'll figure out what he wants to say.

Which I think is kind of important because it's easy to watch the scene and just see Elizabeth tuning him out, but part of the sadness is that even if Reagan hadn't broken in Philip would probably never have been able to communicate anything while Paige is across the hall knowing exactly what she wants to say to Pastor Tim. But in some ways the reason she knows what she wants to say is because she's young and more self-centered. She just knows that she's repulsed at seeing her parents as liars and resents them wanting to make her like them. She's not thinking beyond that. Philip's the opposite. Where Paige can only focus on how she feels and can't move beyond to her parents' pov Philip spends so much time thinking about other peoples' povs that his own is a mystery to him.

Date: 2015-06-12 07:27 pm (UTC)
jae: (theamericansgecko)
From: [personal profile] jae
Ha! I came over here to link to that interview, and you'd already mentioned it. Here it is in full, and this is the relevant bit:

the whole point of that scene was that he can't express himself. We never wrote past that, although we did have a long conversation with Matthew Rhys in which we shared some of the details that might be on the other side of it if Phillip could articulate it. Essentially, talk to him about what would be in his semi-conscious mind that he couldn't find the words for.

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