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Aired:
21 May 2014 in the U.S. and Canada
25 May 2014 in Israel
7 June 2014 in the UK

This is a discussion post for episode 213 of The Americans, intended for viewers who are watching the show on the U.S./Canadian schedule. (Feel free to dive in to the discussion even if you're coming in late--and you should also feel free to start a new thread if it seems too daunting to read through what's already been posted first. If you're reading this at a point where you've already seen subsequent episodes, though, please take care to keep comments spoiler-free of anything that comes after season two, episode thirteen.)

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Re: Tobolsk

Date: 2014-05-23 01:37 am (UTC)
apolla_savre: (Default)
From: [personal profile] apolla_savre
*snorts*

Police in Russia suck. They are notoriously corrupt. The gangs probably had police who bought protection from them or something.

My question is: what kind of gangs? Do you think the show will address the Vory v zakone? I mean, there's no way that's who the gang was, but the overlap between Siberian prisons, gangs, and the Vory are fascinating.

Anyone who's interested should check out the documentary The Mark of Cain, which focuses on Russian prison tattoos. The movie Eastern Promises is also really good - graphic, but good.

Re: Tobolsk

Date: 2014-05-23 01:49 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sistermagpie
I've seen Eastern Promises but now I might have to see it again. Thanks for the documentary rec.

What's the weather/sun situation there?

Re: Tobolsk

Date: 2014-05-23 11:21 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] apolla_savre
Long winters (around -7F to 9F average, according to Wikipedia), short summers (57F-75F, again Wikipedia)

I would say average sun? I'm not sure what you mean by sun situation, but it isn't in the arctic circle, doesn't have a midnight sun, and kids didn't have to stand around a UV light bulb to get necessary vitamin D, like they did in some regions.

Re: Tobolsk

Date: 2014-05-23 02:15 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] quantumreality
Ugh, yeah, I can't imagine Soviet prisons being much better, and I wouldn't be surprised if the gang got its start around when Philip was born and growing up, and were part of the Vory v zakone segment.
Edited Date: 2014-05-23 02:17 am (UTC)

Re: Tobolsk

Date: 2014-05-23 11:17 am (UTC)
apolla_savre: (Default)
From: [personal profile] apolla_savre
Hmm, I don't think they were Vory. For one, I doubt Philip would have been able to take them on single handedly and made it out ok. I'm sure they were kids or teens, but their parents would have been pissed if some kid beat them up.

Philip doesn't have any tattoos, either, and every Vory has them in order to identify them. Plus, he works for the KGB, which a Vory wouldn't be inclined to do.

They might be wanna be Vory, though.

Re: Tobolsk

Date: 2014-06-01 12:37 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sistermagpie
Just wanted to let you know I really enjoyed Mark of Cain. Thanks for the rec!

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