Episode discussion post: "The Deal"
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26 March 2014 in the U.S. and Canada
30 March 2014 in Israel
12 April 2014 in the UK
This is a discussion post for episode 205 of The Americans, intended for viewers who are watching the show on the U.S./Canadian schedule. (Feel free to dive in to the discussion even if you're coming in late--and you should also feel free to start a new thread if it seems too daunting to read through what's already been posted first. If you're reading this at a point where you've already seen subsequent episodes, though, please take care to keep comments spoiler-free of anything that comes after season two, episode five.)
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26 March 2014 in the U.S. and Canada
30 March 2014 in Israel
12 April 2014 in the UK
This is a discussion post for episode 205 of The Americans, intended for viewers who are watching the show on the U.S./Canadian schedule. (Feel free to dive in to the discussion even if you're coming in late--and you should also feel free to start a new thread if it seems too daunting to read through what's already been posted first. If you're reading this at a point where you've already seen subsequent episodes, though, please take care to keep comments spoiler-free of anything that comes after season two, episode five.)
Original promo trailers
Episode recaps
From Grantland
From The New York Times
From Time
From Vulture
From The Washington Post
From Rolling Stone
From The AV Club
From Hitfix
From the Huffington Post
From Collider
From Sound on Sight
From IGN
From Television Without Pity
From TV Ate My Wardrobe
From Geekbinge
From showratings.tv
From screenrant.com
From GAMbIT Magazine
From Crave Online
From spoilertv.com
From tv.com
From Unreality Primetime
From Newsmanone
Re: First thoughts
Date: 2014-03-27 11:02 pm (UTC)It didn't make sense to me either. The deal wasn't much of a deal at all--nearly the same number of Jews were permitted to leave in 1981.
7. Elizabeth and Martha - just wow. Martha is becoming much more human now. But to repeat a question already asked: who starts talking to somebody about her brother's sexual prowess? And which sister would actually want to know? Was Elizabeth asking because she wanted to know, or because she thought she should in-character? Anyway, the scene was done very well, and didn't seem as awkward as it could have been. "He just makes me his" - doesn't he?
I thought that was way awkward myself. No one I know starts talking about their sex life with their in-laws--no matter how drunk they are. Actually, no one I know talks about their sex life period. I wasn't really buying that scene at all, unless Elizabeth slipped a little something extra into the wine.
Re: First thoughts
Date: 2014-03-28 03:28 am (UTC)I found it to be something of a stretch too--especially considering Martha seems to be from a fairly conservative family and she and "Jennifer" have only met the one time. But, I can forgive the stretch in credibility if it brings up interesting things in the P/E relationship. And it was one of the first scenes where I was rather okay with Martha.
Re: First thoughts
Date: 2014-03-28 05:55 am (UTC)Yeah, me too :-) Either "Jennifer" brings out the more human side in her, or she's more natural without "Clark" around.
Re: First thoughts
Date: 2014-03-28 03:57 pm (UTC)Where as in this scene Elizabeth presented Jennifer as being the normal member of the family who doesn't have those constraints because she's just a girl visiting her sister in law, so Martha could speak from a different pov.
Refusenik visas
Date: 2014-03-28 06:05 am (UTC)According to wiki - over 9,000 Jews were allowed to leave in 1981. But as was mentioned earlier here, most preferred the West over Israel.
But it's also interesting that in those years, the number of Jews allowed to leave was dropping. That group didn't show any 'Russian change of heart' at all.
Re: Refusenik visas
Date: 2014-03-28 04:03 pm (UTC)Source: [x] The footnotes are in the article.
Maybe I'm getting this wrong, but reading between the lines, it sounds like the issue of Jewish emigration was being used by Reagan for his own political agenda.
Re: Refusenik visas
Date: 2014-03-29 06:34 pm (UTC)On the one hand, it's not that surprising.
On the other, it was a real issue. American Jews spent more than a decade promoting the right of Jewish emigration before US politicians took up the cause. And it took another decade before Jews were allowed out.
Re: Refusenik visas
Date: 2014-03-29 06:47 pm (UTC)Current time
Date: 2014-03-29 06:38 pm (UTC)I think we're in the fall of 1981.
Re: Current time
Date: 2014-03-29 06:40 pm (UTC)-J
Re: Current time
Date: 2014-03-29 06:59 pm (UTC)Feb. 1981 - Russia started reissuing exit visas.
http://www.nytimes.com/1981/02/14/world/moscow-abruptly-resumes-issuing-exit-visas-to-jews.html
While in 1982, only 862 visas were granted during the first quarter
http://www.jta.org/1982/04/06/jewish-holidays/passover/soviet-jewish-emigration-suffers-as-passover-and-easter-approaches
That group of 1,500 could not have been in January 1982.
So in my head-cannon, I'm still assuming end of 1981 ;-)
Re: Current time and the Refusenik visas
Date: 2014-03-29 07:00 pm (UTC)-J
Re: Current time and the Refusenik visas
Date: 2014-03-29 07:11 pm (UTC)Re: Current time
Date: 2014-03-29 07:40 pm (UTC)But I like your head canon much better. It fits together with everything else.
Re: Current time
Date: 2014-03-29 08:11 pm (UTC)Re: Current time
Date: 2014-03-29 08:13 pm (UTC)Re: Current time
Date: 2014-03-29 09:28 pm (UTC)I just have to keep looking past the beautiful fall foliage. :)