Episode discussion post: "Cardinal"
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5 March 2014 in the U.S. and Canada
9 March 2014 in Israel
22 March 2014 in the UK
This is a discussion post for episode 202 of The Americans, intended for viewers who are watching the show on the U.S./Canadian schedule. (Feel free to dive in to the discussion if you're reading this later and have already seen subsequent episodes, but please take care to keep comments spoiler-free of anything that comes after season two, episode two.)
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5 March 2014 in the U.S. and Canada
9 March 2014 in Israel
22 March 2014 in the UK
This is a discussion post for episode 202 of The Americans, intended for viewers who are watching the show on the U.S./Canadian schedule. (Feel free to dive in to the discussion if you're reading this later and have already seen subsequent episodes, but please take care to keep comments spoiler-free of anything that comes after season two, episode two.)
Original promo trailers
Episode recaps
From Vulture
From Hitfix
From The AV Club
From The Huffington Post
From IGN
From Think Progress
From SpoilerTV
From Zap2it
From Television Without Pity
From TV Ate My Wardrobe
From Filmthrasher
From showratings.tv
From Newsmanone
From Screenrant
From the LA Times
From Geekbinge
From tvrage.com
From Unreality TV (UK)
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Date: 2014-03-06 12:29 pm (UTC)I found it remarkable just how much of the truth Philip was telling to Emmet's American agent while he was trying to keep from being killed. It wasn't everything, and it wasn't, you know, egregious, it was just enough. Although on Twitter, someone observed that questions about his kids were still off-limits. Also, I felt so sad for the poor agent guy! He was totally in over his head. I wonder how he was as an agent, what he did for Emmet, and how he got recruited.
I am really, really excited about Aimee Carrero's character (the Sandinista posing as a Costa Rican--not an illegal, but a similar twist on spying!): I thought this was a great introduction to her, just a teaser. She's totally going to remind Elizabeth of herself from a few decades back. It's also really interesting to me that the KGB illegals are the ones for someone like her to call when you got into a jam--like, her own country doesn't have enough of that sort of support network. I wonder if that's accurate.
The long bedroom scene between Philip and Elizabeth at the end was so lovely and so sad. They're both scared, but they're still complementing each other really well and helping prop each other up. Also their bedroom continues to be the place of intimacy for them, and not just in the sexual sense. Also, "we'll get used to it, like we've gotten used to everything else" was something that we'd heard before from the previews, but I loved how it fit into the scene, and I still find it to be truly the most Philip line ever.
Man, Martha thinking about leaving her job--that would certainly throw a wrench into things for Philip, wouldn't it? He's doing a good job manipulating her into staying so far, but I don't know how long that's going to take.
Littler things:
I loved that Philip was still obsessing over Henry's role in the mission that went bad. Elizabeth has moved on, but his head is still there, thinking about what he could have done differently.
I totally called "Cardinal" being a code name, from when we found out the episode title. It was totally a lucky guess, of course, at that point but I'm still a bit chuffed. :)
Philip in Emmet and Leanne's place, careful not to touch anything, using the screwdriver--until he got to the Playboy and he picked it up to check it with his mitts all over it. What's up with that?
-J
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Date: 2014-03-06 02:18 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2014-03-06 11:40 pm (UTC)-J
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Date: 2014-03-07 01:39 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2014-03-07 02:13 pm (UTC)I actually think he may have been looking for loose pieces of paper stuck in between an "inconspicuous" porn magazine.
Or he was just a little horny. ;-)
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Date: 2014-03-06 05:05 pm (UTC)In general, one of the things I really like that they're obviously setting up this season is that spies are in some ways all one big family even when they're spying for different countries for different reasons. They can at least be honest about what they're doing, and they tend to get where each other's head is at. There's a lot of times in this ep where they show an immediate understanding of things the other person probably thinks is very isolating and private.
It does look like Emmett and Leanne will continue to be characters to illuminate the Jennings themselves. I'm sure Philip, too, is wondering just what made "Paul" take to Fred so much that he'd talk about his kids. I suspect Fred will wind up being a good agent for Philip now instead. And I wouldn't be surprised if Philip used the name Paul with him too!
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Date: 2014-03-06 11:48 pm (UTC)I like this observation! Of course this is most true when it's the same country (Philip and Elizabeth and Nina, say), or at least the same side in the "war" (as with Elizabeth and Lucia), but even Philip and Stan have this solidarity in a way. It's a large part of what brings them together as friends.
It would really make sense for Philip to take Fred on as an agent at this point--I hope they do go there.
-J
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Date: 2014-03-07 12:04 am (UTC)In Stan's case, it's really driving him too, I think. Like it's one of the things that makes him feel he understands and connects with Nina, and it was something that Amador couldn't understand. ("It was a little deeper than that.") It's funny, of course, that he seems to want to confide in Philip about it even though for all Stan knows, Philip is just as clueless as Amador.
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Date: 2014-03-07 01:53 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2014-03-07 03:08 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2014-03-07 12:19 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2014-03-07 01:47 pm (UTC)-J
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Date: 2014-03-07 01:50 pm (UTC)But what I meant - Philip shouldn't have assumed that this guy only had playboys locked up in the drawer. There could have been something else there. But the show didn't go in that direction, so he was lucky ;-)
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Date: 2014-03-08 05:26 am (UTC)Though I don't think the Playboy would be any real danger. It's a magazine inside a drawer, and a Playboy, several years old. It's made to be thumbed through by whoever picks it up, and I don't even know how clear fingerprints would be from holding it anyway. Probably partial smears most of the time at best. If they did dust for prints I don't think they'd be dusting that.
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Date: 2014-03-08 01:22 pm (UTC)-J