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This is the discussion post for "The Colonel" (episode #13, the season finale) in the group rewatch of season one. When you rewatched the episode, was there anything you noticed that you didn't notice the first time (and any subsequent times) you saw it? What things about it did you perhaps view differently after having seen the later episodes?

You can expect spoilers for the entire first season in the comments. Feel free to join in even if you didn't get a chance to watch the episodes that preceded it!

Date: 2013-11-24 07:38 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] katiac
You know, when I first started reading this point I was ready to disagree--I was going to say that Philip's decision to stay with Elizabeth also had to do with the kids not being in danger. But the rest of what you wrote made me see that you're right, it's much more than that. He did, in fact, risk everything by rushing to save Elizabeth. His first thought was protecting his wife and his partner, not to rush home to get the kids out of the country and give her up for a loss. And as an agent he's used to making those kinds of decisions in the field.

Yes, absolutely. Although in kind of a different way to look at it, perhaps he was also honoring what he said about them needing Elizabeth... he could've gone to get them and taken them to Canada, but at that point, their "normal" lives are essentially over forever. Not only do they have to live in hiding permanently, but they will (most likely) never see their mother again. So would they be "safe" physically with Philip? Sure, but very hurt, deceived, living a half life and grieving the loss of their mother. The only way any of them had any hope of ever being truly happy again was to risk that he might be caught going for her. I think that other possibility (a life without Elizabeth) was so unthinkable for him (for himself or for any of them) that it was really a non-choice at that point in his mind.

Elizabeth doesn't want to admit it, but this instinct of Philip's means a lot to her. She'd always tell him to make a different choice but in her heart she appreciates how important she is to him personally.

Yes, it's great because it's a mirror to what IMHO attracts Philip to her--that he can really trust her in a way he can't other people (Irina.) So that honesty both feels great at times and hurts at others. It clearly peeves Elizabeth at times when he gets protective and overreacts like in "COMINT" but then part of her also seems to relish that it IS personal with them and he does always put her first, whether they're on a break or not.

Date: 2013-11-24 08:19 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sistermagpie
The only way any of them had any hope of ever being truly happy again was to risk that he might be caught going for her. I think that other possibility (a life without Elizabeth) was so unthinkable for him (for himself or for any of them) that it was really a non-choice at that point in his mind.

I agree. As jae said, it's kind of a big blob in his mind. He isn't just saving Elizabeth because he's madly in love with her, he's also trying to keep his kids' life in tact for their own happiness. It's a gamble, but one he's prepared to make and has reason to think he might pull off, so it's worth the risk. (Much better a risk than The Clock caper!)

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