Exactly! Like I see their sexual relationship in season one as always having been very... maybe hesitant is the wrong word, because clearly it's not always that... but it's a very weighted topic and that never really seems to leave the room. Elizabeth has some bad things attached to sex. Philip has some bad things attached to sex. They have some bad things attached to sex with each other (Elizabeth feeling forced, Philip feeling unloved) and so I always imagined that while it slowly began to open up a little as things progressed, there was always a hesitance and carefulness attached to it. Certainly not the idea of hey let's have some fun, play around, and see what we like in bed, but more of, we're finally connecting, this is very meaningful to us... kind of the same tone there seemed to be in episode four. It would be a pretty serious thing at first, hesitant and uncertain at times after so long in a different way of approaching it with each other, I would think, and then it would take some time for that tension to entirely evaporate.
I think this would also not even be what it would have been like with Gregory. Surely they'd have been more free, but not quite in the same way.
Yeah, I agree. Like I think Gregory was very meaningful to her, but Elizabeth at the point they were together was really not allowing herself to get intimate with anyone. That seems to be something that's new to her very recently, the painfulness of it for her suggesting she's never been forced to dig to that level before. And I don't think from how we saw Philip and Irina together that it seems likely he ever got anywhere near that with her either. This sort of relationship is really new to both of them.
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Date: 2014-02-20 01:28 am (UTC)Yeah, I agree. Like I think Gregory was very meaningful to her, but Elizabeth at the point they were together was really not allowing herself to get intimate with anyone. That seems to be something that's new to her very recently, the painfulness of it for her suggesting she's never been forced to dig to that level before. And I don't think from how we saw Philip and Irina together that it seems likely he ever got anywhere near that with her either. This sort of relationship is really new to both of them.