I didn't see Elizabeth's statements as in any way her implying that she was going to die heroically. She doesn't want to die. She's merely resigned to dying if that's what it takes.
In this particular discussion, I don't think that she was trying to manipulate him into coming to help her. As for her calling him a jerk earlier, they both said or implied incredibly poisonous things to each other. That happens in a stressed marriage. The closer people are to each other, the easier it to to know exactly what to do or say that will be the most hurtful. They're both flawed and both communicate poorly with each other. That's been one of the most fascinating things to observe in this series, to me at least. This season long breakdown in their ability to communicate with each other has been painfully fascinating to watch because it parallels real life married couples so well. Married people sometimes say horrible things to each other when they're stressed or when their life choices start to separate them acutely. Couples can either break up at that point, or else remember that they love each other. Sometimes getting Philip to communicate what he feels is like pulling teeth. Other times he's open and eager (sometimes too eager) to share what he's feeling. Elizabeth tends to demonstrate what she's feeling in lieu of expressing it in words. She was ready to be done with all the spying last season (3 years ago in show time) just as much as Philip was. Now she's beyond the edge of her endurance but she's pushing on anyway. Even now, she would never tell Philip she wants his help. It's not a pride thing or because she thinks he can't cut it. She's trying to uphold her end of the deal they made when he quit. No matter what other issues they both still need to resolve between them, Philip finally opened his eyes and saw the state she's really in and he's going to help her because she needs him. He was broken at the end of the last season and she stepped up for him. Now three years later, she's broken and he's stepping up for her.
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Re: Henry and Walden
Date: 2018-05-03 09:23 pm (UTC)In this particular discussion, I don't think that she was trying to manipulate him into coming to help her. As for her calling him a jerk earlier, they both said or implied incredibly poisonous things to each other. That happens in a stressed marriage. The closer people are to each other, the easier it to to know exactly what to do or say that will be the most hurtful. They're both flawed and both communicate poorly with each other. That's been one of the most fascinating things to observe in this series, to me at least. This season long breakdown in their ability to communicate with each other has been painfully fascinating to watch because it parallels real life married couples so well. Married people sometimes say horrible things to each other when they're stressed or when their life choices start to separate them acutely. Couples can either break up at that point, or else remember that they love each other. Sometimes getting Philip to communicate what he feels is like pulling teeth. Other times he's open and eager (sometimes too eager) to share what he's feeling. Elizabeth tends to demonstrate what she's feeling in lieu of expressing it in words. She was ready to be done with all the spying last season (3 years ago in show time) just as much as Philip was. Now she's beyond the edge of her endurance but she's pushing on anyway. Even now, she would never tell Philip she wants his help. It's not a pride thing or because she thinks he can't cut it. She's trying to uphold her end of the deal they made when he quit. No matter what other issues they both still need to resolve between them, Philip finally opened his eyes and saw the state she's really in and he's going to help her because she needs him. He was broken at the end of the last season and she stepped up for him. Now three years later, she's broken and he's stepping up for her.
That's how I see all this.