But in such a scenario, why should Elizabeth assume Paige would be safe from recruitment now, when she wasn't before? Mind you: I'm not married to the "run" interpretation, but I thought her telling Philip after the raise the kids as Americans part "it's what you always wanted" was a call back to the pilot.
It doesn't actually make sense to me either! I thought back to the pilot as well and assumed that's what she meant. But then I realized that what she was actually saying didn't line up that way because she had him both killing Pastor Tim and never letting Henry in on the secret--specifically Henry would apparently never even know there was a secret. So that implies them continuing to live the way they've lived, which they couldn't do if they were on the run from the KGB in the US or in Witness protection. And why kill Pastor Tim if he's quitting? It was kind of a jumble of things.
And maybe that was the idea. Elizabeth wasn't really putting together a coherent plan (she was feverish, after all), she was just hitting the things that were bothering her. She wanted to fall on her sword for Pastor Tim because she was feeling guilty about it and also give Philip his dream of having a normal life.
Including the way Paige covered for her parents to Stan!
It's funny because it's really *this* that makes me want Henry brought in. Sure it's great that he's protected from the secret, but without knowing who his parents are he...doesn't know who they are. He's not only accidentally blabbing things to Stan, he's just left out of the reality.
True. And I got the impression Philip believes that Gabriel truly wants to help them in this, not playing them. (For that matter, I believe Gabriel, too, but then I've watched his scenes with Claudia where he expresses dislike of the entire Paige recruitment idea and Philip hasn't.) I suspect it's not solely the experience of almost dying by pathogen but also Gabriel unpatriotically but truthfully talking about his youth in Stalinist Russia.
That was my impression too. I was with Philip in hearing Gabriel very differently when he offered this idea than I've heard him in the past. Maybe it is, as you say, knowing that Gabriel does, in fact, think this is a stupid plan. But it did seem like it was also there in the performance--not to mention the references to Stalin. He just basically told them that doing what he was told *didn't* bring him a feeling of security.
In a way this whole quarantine plot sort of infected all four of them with some rebelliousness.
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Re: Gabriel and the Family Secret
Date: 2016-04-07 06:01 pm (UTC)It doesn't actually make sense to me either! I thought back to the pilot as well and assumed that's what she meant. But then I realized that what she was actually saying didn't line up that way because she had him both killing Pastor Tim and never letting Henry in on the secret--specifically Henry would apparently never even know there was a secret. So that implies them continuing to live the way they've lived, which they couldn't do if they were on the run from the KGB in the US or in Witness protection. And why kill Pastor Tim if he's quitting? It was kind of a jumble of things.
And maybe that was the idea. Elizabeth wasn't really putting together a coherent plan (she was feverish, after all), she was just hitting the things that were bothering her. She wanted to fall on her sword for Pastor Tim because she was feeling guilty about it and also give Philip his dream of having a normal life.
It's funny because it's really *this* that makes me want Henry brought in. Sure it's great that he's protected from the secret, but without knowing who his parents are he...doesn't know who they are. He's not only accidentally blabbing things to Stan, he's just left out of the reality.
That was my impression too. I was with Philip in hearing Gabriel very differently when he offered this idea than I've heard him in the past. Maybe it is, as you say, knowing that Gabriel does, in fact, think this is a stupid plan. But it did seem like it was also there in the performance--not to mention the references to Stalin. He just basically told them that doing what he was told *didn't* bring him a feeling of security.
In a way this whole quarantine plot sort of infected all four of them with some rebelliousness.