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Jae ([personal profile] jae) wrote in [community profile] theamericans2014-03-26 07:45 pm
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Episode discussion post: "The Deal"

Aired:
26 March 2014 in the U.S. and Canada
30 March 2014 in Israel
12 April 2014 in the UK

This is a discussion post for episode 205 of The Americans, intended for viewers who are watching the show on the U.S./Canadian schedule. (Feel free to dive in to the discussion even if you're coming in late--and you should also feel free to start a new thread if it seems too daunting to read through what's already been posted first. If you're reading this at a point where you've already seen subsequent episodes, though, please take care to keep comments spoiler-free of anything that comes after season two, episode five.)

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Re: Henry--at the end of The Walk-In

[personal profile] sistermagpie 2014-03-29 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Since the focus this season is supposed to be on the effect of the spying mission on their family, if the majority of viewers are concluding that everything is a-okay with Henry and that Paige is just a drama queen--and that does seem to be what most people think here--then there is has to be something going wrong with the scripts. This is obviously a minority view point, but I can't believe that's what the writers intended us to conclude.

Not at all. I think everybody gets that's there's something wrong with the Jennings family. I'm saying that what's wrong with the Jennings family isn't that it doesn't conform to an ideal of how parents are supposed to focus on their children by not having personal issues or having concerns outside their kids. The whole family is currently struggling to find the north star and failing, but in Henry's case it's the most literal because he's actually doing astronomy.

Attitudes about how parents are supposed to relate to children has changed really drastically in the past couple of decades, and I really do feel like part of the appeal of all these prestige dramas is they show parents having competing concerns and identities outside of being parents. Quite often those competing concerns damage the family or hurt the children--the Jennings are by definition an example of this because their children's entire existence is steeped in lies that could shake their entire identity. Or get them killed. That's central to the entire premise. But I think the automatic association with a solitary child disappointed in a comic book purchase or a teenager leaving the house to meet a friend without permission with the parents being busy is not one that people would immediately make in the not so distant past. Parents are assumed to have much more power and responsibility for their kids' emotional states now. A kid dealing with a personal crisis or disappointment on their own often reads as parental neglect where it wouldn't have in the past.
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Re: Henry--at the end of The Walk-In

[personal profile] wendelah1 2014-03-30 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
Parents are assumed to have much more power and responsibility for their kids' emotional states now. A kid dealing with a personal crisis or disappointment on their own often reads as parental neglect where it wouldn't have in the past.

I see. I was raising my kid beginning in the mid-eighties, so a little later than Philip and Elizabeth. I think I'm pretty clear about what constitutes actual neglect. For as long as I can remember, there have been people who made it their business to criticize the way other people raise their kids. It sounds that's been raised now to a whole new level.