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Jae ([personal profile] jae) wrote in [community profile] theamericans2014-03-26 07:45 pm
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Episode discussion post: "The Deal"

Aired:
26 March 2014 in the U.S. and Canada
30 March 2014 in Israel
12 April 2014 in the UK

This is a discussion post for episode 205 of The Americans, intended for viewers who are watching the show on the U.S./Canadian schedule. (Feel free to dive in to the discussion even if you're coming in late--and you should also feel free to start a new thread if it seems too daunting to read through what's already been posted first. If you're reading this at a point where you've already seen subsequent episodes, though, please take care to keep comments spoiler-free of anything that comes after season two, episode five.)

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Re: Philip and Elizabeth's sexual relationship

[personal profile] sistermagpie 2014-03-27 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Why wouldn't she have asked for more details if they had a healthy sex life? To me it seemed like she was just curious and a little jealous of how Clark and Martha's sex life would have developed differently than hers and Philip's, but him not being the same kind of lover didn't to me mean that he was resenting Elizabeth for not being the same. Clark doesn't particularly like sex with Martha but I think he does like it with Elizabeth--not because of the sex as the person.

It's like in an early season of MM where a character tells her therapist, regarding her sex life, that sometimes he'll do something that she feels like is what someone else likes.
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Re: Philip and Elizabeth's sexual relationship

[personal profile] sistermagpie 2014-03-27 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Honestly, in a way it was probably like finding a great bottle of red wine in the fridge when you previously only bought white. Maybe it's good--and now you have an option you didn't know you had before.

Re: Philip and Elizabeth's sexual relationship

[personal profile] katiac 2014-03-28 03:10 am (UTC)(link)
Right, this. Like their mutually-wanted sexual relationship is still so new. They started off in a very fragile state, and went through rough patches as they gradually grew closer, and with the timing in the show, they've been okay for literally weeks at a time before things blew up over the various lies of their past. And then there was the separation, and Elizabeth has been home for what, a few weeks at most in season two? Probably less than that. This is really their first opportunity where they've been through hell, finally fully committed to each other, and are in a stable place. It's kind of a natural moment for more comfort and openness with exploration to start happening.

Re: Philip and Elizabeth's sexual relationship

[personal profile] andy73 2022-06-20 08:43 am (UTC)(link)
That was my read too. She was jealous, and in her, that jealousy led to the curiosity rather than prevented it. And that wouldn't happen in a woman who isn't really all that interested in having sex with Philip

That was my read too.
I think you are right
Edited 2022-06-20 08:45 (UTC)