We have mentions of Kimmy and Lisa from last season in one episode. It feels little forced. Why they couldn't have Philip give Gabriel the cassette four episodes back?
In this case I think they had reason for that--this whole season has been taking place within a very short amount of time, with Philip often having a lot of stuff going on, so timewise it probably made a lot of sense for these couple of weeks to end with a handoff of a Kimmie tape. It could have been earlier, I guess, since we don't know how long before last season's finale he saw her, but with such compressed time it made sense they saved it until now where they could connect it with Martha leaving.
Otherwise I am atheist. But for Philip I think that what he gets from it is the CLICK moment. He understands something when in EST. Problem is it is not because of EST. It's more like when you are sitting in park garden of some restaurant drinking beer and eavesdropping on what people at neighbouring tables are discussing, it's something completely different to your area of expertise and looking at people on bicycles and then boom you understand something you were trying to understand for some time. The exact conversation around you is not imperative for it. And that is how I see Est.
That puts it so well! I was talking to someone elsewhere who just couldn't believe someone with Philip's background would fall for something that really does grab money from people right and left. But I thought exactly this--but not expressed as well. EST is the first place Philip has ever gone where people were talking about this kind of basic psychology and he heard it right when he was thinking about this sort of thing.
It's a bit like Paige's first steps into the church, which was the first place she heard these ideas about wanting something bigger to give you purpose in your life that seriously. That's why when I first saw the EST scene I thought oh, geez, is Philip going to have to keep going to these things?
So running just because he is depressed is not an option. Now he has at least the advantage that he can blame the Centre.
Yeah, you can "love your cage" even if it's giving him something to hate. He's also got Elizabeth there as the reason he's still in the life, but I don't think that's entirely true either.
It makes me wonder how she was disciplined – if she was spanked?
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Re: My ideas
Date: 2016-05-05 11:57 pm (UTC)In this case I think they had reason for that--this whole season has been taking place within a very short amount of time, with Philip often having a lot of stuff going on, so timewise it probably made a lot of sense for these couple of weeks to end with a handoff of a Kimmie tape. It could have been earlier, I guess, since we don't know how long before last season's finale he saw her, but with such compressed time it made sense they saved it until now where they could connect it with Martha leaving.
That puts it so well! I was talking to someone elsewhere who just couldn't believe someone with Philip's background would fall for something that really does grab money from people right and left. But I thought exactly this--but not expressed as well. EST is the first place Philip has ever gone where people were talking about this kind of basic psychology and he heard it right when he was thinking about this sort of thing.
It's a bit like Paige's first steps into the church, which was the first place she heard these ideas about wanting something bigger to give you purpose in your life that seriously. That's why when I first saw the EST scene I thought oh, geez, is Philip going to have to keep going to these things?
Yeah, you can "love your cage" even if it's giving him something to hate. He's also got Elizabeth there as the reason he's still in the life, but I don't think that's entirely true either.
I would bet she maybe didn't have to be.